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I don’t think people were unaware of the answer (in response to wes) I think most of us were unaware of the question. Nevertheless, a good refresher course on assuming.
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On Aug 31, 2008, at 2:03 PM, “Scott Morris” wrote:
> My views on this haven’t changed over the years though. > > But an amusing correlation nonetheless! > > —–Original Message—– > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf > Of L > Pham > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:49 PM > To: Scott Morris > Cc: Shahid Ansari; Muhammad Nasim; Wes Stevens; Hobbs; > ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: set password > > He he, > Scott is in an election year, I can tell > Loc > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Scott Morris > wrote: >> Shouldn’t the appropriate answer be “wherever I’m at?” ?? >> (Although that answer is a bit too pretentious for me!) >> >> Everyone has different views of the world, and features and things >> like that, but I’ve always encouraged folks to not look just at any >> particular product or feature or whatever special du jour is going >> on. >> >> Look at the people behind it, and the qualifications of all of the >> folks involved. Even perhaps at the “extra-curricular” activities of >> each of the people. That helps tell the whole story, and that whole >> story really helps gain a better appreciation for the WHO you want to >> put your money with and look for a better expereince. >> >> This should be a long-term goal for everyone involved, so never >> make a >> decision based on a short-term answer! >> >> HTH, >> >> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. >> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER >> Senior CCIE Instructor >> >> smorris@internetworkexpert.com >> >> >> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc. >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987 >> Outside US: 775-826-4344 >> Online Community: A great place for information that is viewed as >> competition here… >> CCIE Blog: blog . ourwebsite >> >> Knowledge is power. >> Power corrupts. >> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil…… >> >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >> Of Shahid Ansari >> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:22 PM >> To: Scott Morris >> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Wes Stevens; Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: Re: set password >> >> By the way Scott which Vendor is Best [IPExpert : ( ] OR >> [ InternetworkExpert : ) ] ? >> You must Answer …… >> >> Thanks >> Shahid >> >> >> On 8/31/08, Scott Morris wrote: >>> >>> I see your point there, but don’t necessarily agree…. I will >> absolutely >>> agree that people need to have some flavor of real-life experience >>> to >>> go along with this, otherwise too many things just don’t make >>> sense… >>> >>> On the same notion though, the CCIE isn’t about real life! It’s >>> about technologies. And you’ll learn more details (generally >>> speaking) about those in vendor’s workbooks and bootcamps than you >>> will with several years on live networks. >>> >>> That’s just because we have different focusses in real life versus >>> in >>> lab exams! But real life experience should give us the perspective >>> on things as we move forward! >>> >>> Either way, though, the key is that the CCIE number is not the END >>> of the >>> journey! I still remember walking out of the lab up in Halifax >>> (closed >>> now) on a nice, sunny day, having just received my number…. I >>> walked >>> across the street to a park and just laid down staring up at the >>> sky. >>> And the biggest thing I remember is thinking about all the things I >>> knew and realizing “damn, there’s even more stuff I don’t know!”. >>> >>> CCIE is but a pit-stop on our technical journey! Vendors and >>> bootcamps cannot possibly teach you everything! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> —–Original Message—– >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >>> Of Muhammad Nasim >>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:12 AM >>> To: Wes Stevens >>> Cc: Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com >>> Subject: Re: set password >>> >>> It is due to easiness of passing the lab and availability of the >>> Dynampis and the most NEGATIVE thing is to ONLY AND ONLY FOCUS ON >>> VENDOR WORKBOOKS AND BOOTCAMP in order to get the NUMBER. >>> >>> >>> No offense intended to vendors and candidates. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2008/8/31 Wes Stevens >>> >>>> I was active on this list 6 year ago before I sat the lab. I have >>>> been watching on and off since and helping when time permits. The >>>> list goes in cycles. Right now it is out of focus. Way too many >>>> questions that are not CCIE quality. Most companys force the use of >>>> a special character in passwords - any of the 100 or so network ops >>>> guys where I work could tell you how to do it. >>>> For me that is a CCNA question - not IE. If you have passed the >>>> written - a prerequisite for this list - you should know it. >>>> >>>> If you are serious about >>>> your studies this list should be important to you. If it is >>>> important keeping it focused on discussions that will help you pass >>>> the lab should also be important. These days there are a lot more >>>> CCNA questions and off topics then ones that really help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> —– Original Message —- >>>> From: Hobbs >>>> >>>> To: Wes Stevens >>>> Cc: >>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:08:43 AM >>>> Subject: Re: >>>> set password >>>> >>>> >>>> “Still don’t think it is a ccie study question” >>>> >>>> Talk about a >>>> poor sport! Section I-B of the blueprint includes…VTP…hmmm… >>>> >>>> I would >>>> think that includes how to set a vtp password, with the particular >>>> caveat of setting one with a question mark. I didn’t know that one >>>> until I started studying for the lab (which was before I took the >>>> written by the way). >>>> >>>> The >>>> topic of his post was not “Have I taken the written yet and/or your >>>> concerns on whether I have” so stop trying to change it to that. >>>> Maybe you should start a separate chain for your ad hominems. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Wes Stevens >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I saw the quotes around the “?”. >>>> Still don’t think it is a ccie study question. No one even bothers >>>> to search the cisco site before they email the list. We have a lot >>>> of off topic and and questions that belong on the general list not >>>> here, and not much studying going on…. >>>> >>>> Still did not answer my question - has he passed the written? >>>> —– Original Message —- >>>> From: Hobbs >>>> To: David >>>> Lonnie >>>> >>>> Cc: ratm ; Michael Jones >>>> ; itguy.pro@gmail.com; Wes Stevens >>>> ; “ccielab@groupstudy.com” >>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:38:31 PM >>>> Subject: >>>> Re: set password >>>> >>>> >>>> HAHA. all you guys got owned. He was asking how to use the ? in the >>>> password. I think that’s a legitimate question. HAHAHA. >>>> >>>> don’t take >>>> it personal, i just thought it was funny! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM, >>>> David Lonnie wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi,ratm. >>>> >>>> Right, only you got >>>> the correct answer. >>>> >>>> >>>> David. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ratm wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi david >>>>> >>>>> In order to enter the question >>>> mark as a character and not a calling IOS >>>>> help you have to use the sequence: >>>> Ctrl+v and then enter the question mark, >>>>> then enter the remaining characters >>>>> >>>>> vtp password cisco CTRL+v ? >>>>> >>>>> I really hope you were asking this… >>>>> >>>>> br >>>>> ruben >>>>> >>>>> 2008/8/31 Michael Jones >>>>> >>>>> wtF lol >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> And which country did you pass your ccie? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry >>>> from T-Mobile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> —–Original Message—– >>>>>>> From: Wes Stevens >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:21 >>>>>>> >>>> To: David Lonnie; ccielab@groupstudy.com>>>>>> >>>> ccielab@groupstudy.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: set password >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When and >>>> how did you pass your ccie written? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> —– Original Message >>>> —- >>>>>>> From: David Lonnie >>>>>>> To: >>>> “ccielab@groupstudy.com” >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August >>>> 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM >>>>>>> Subject: set password >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi,experts. >>>>>>> can >>>> some guys tell me , how to set vtp password “cisco?” ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> ___ >>>>>>> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic >>>> groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> ___ >>>>>>> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic >>>> groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> ___ >>>>>>> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups >>>> at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ >>>> ___ >>>>>> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at >>>> http://www.ccie.net >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>> _ ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> — >>> Muhammad Nasim >>> Network Engineer >>> Saudi Arabia >>> >>> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________
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