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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Scott Morris wrote: > Shouldn’t the appropriate answer be “wherever I’m at?” ?? (Although > that answer is a bit too pretentious for me!) > > Everyone has different views of the world, and features and things like > that, but I’ve always encouraged folks to not look just at any particular > product or feature or whatever special du jour is going on. > > Look at the people behind it, and the qualifications of all of the folks > involved. Even perhaps at the “extra-curricular” activities of each of the > people. That helps tell the whole story, and that whole story really helps > gain a better appreciation for the WHO you want to put your money with and > look for a better expereince. > > This should be a long-term goal for everyone involved, so never make a > decision based on a short-term answer! > > HTH, > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER > Senior CCIE Instructor > > smorris@internetworkexpert.com > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > Outside US: 775-826-4344 > Online Community: A great place for information that is viewed as > competition here… > CCIE Blog: blog . ourwebsite > > Knowledge is power. > Power corrupts. > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil…… > > > —–Original Message—– > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Shahid Ansari > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:22 PM > To: Scott Morris > Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Wes Stevens; Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: set password > > By the way Scott which Vendor is Best [IPExpert : ( ] OR > [ InternetworkExpert : ) ] ? > You must Answer …… > > Thanks > Shahid > > > On 8/31/08, Scott Morris wrote: >> >> I see your point there, but don’t necessarily agree…. I will > absolutely >> agree that people need to have some flavor of real-life experience to >> go along with this, otherwise too many things just don’t make sense… >> >> On the same notion though, the CCIE isn’t about real life! It’s about >> technologies. And you’ll learn more details (generally speaking) >> about those in vendor’s workbooks and bootcamps than you will with >> several years on live networks. >> >> That’s just because we have different focusses in real life versus in >> lab exams! But real life experience should give us the perspective on >> things as we move forward! >> >> Either way, though, the key is that the CCIE number is not the END of the >> journey! I still remember walking out of the lab up in Halifax (closed >> now) on a nice, sunny day, having just received my number…. I walked >> across the street to a park and just laid down staring up at the sky. >> And the biggest thing I remember is thinking about all the things I >> knew and realizing “damn, there’s even more stuff I don’t know!”. >> >> CCIE is but a pit-stop on our technical journey! Vendors and >> bootcamps cannot possibly teach you everything! >> >> Scott >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >> Of Muhammad Nasim >> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:12 AM >> To: Wes Stevens >> Cc: Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: Re: set password >> >> It is due to easiness of passing the lab and availability of the >> Dynampis and the most NEGATIVE thing is to ONLY AND ONLY FOCUS ON >> VENDOR WORKBOOKS AND BOOTCAMP in order to get the NUMBER. >> >> >> No offense intended to vendors and candidates. >> >> >> >> 2008/8/31 Wes Stevens >> >> > I was active on this list 6 year ago before I sat the lab. I have >> > been watching on and off since and helping when time permits. The >> > list goes in cycles. Right now it is out of focus. Way too many >> > questions that are not CCIE quality. Most companys force the use of >> > a special character in passwords - any of the 100 or so network ops >> > guys where I work could tell you how to do it. >> > For me that is a CCNA question - not IE. If you have passed the >> > written - a prerequisite for this list - you should know it. >> > >> > If you are serious about >> > your studies this list should be important to you. If it is >> > important keeping it focused on discussions that will help you pass >> > the lab should also be important. These days there are a lot more >> > CCNA questions and off topics then ones that really help. >> > >> > >> > >> > —– Original Message —- >> > From: Hobbs >> > >> > To: Wes Stevens >> > Cc: >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:08:43 AM >> > Subject: Re: >> > set password >> > >> > >> > “Still don’t think it is a ccie study question” >> > >> > Talk about a >> > poor sport! Section I-B of the blueprint includes…VTP…hmmm… >> > >> > I would >> > think that includes how to set a vtp password, with the particular >> > caveat of setting one with a question mark. I didn’t know that one >> > until I started studying for the lab (which was before I took the >> > written by the way). >> > >> > The >> > topic of his post was not “Have I taken the written yet and/or your >> > concerns on whether I have” so stop trying to change it to that. >> > Maybe you should start a separate chain for your ad hominems. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Wes Stevens >> > wrote: >> > >> > I saw the quotes around the “?”. >> > Still don’t think it is a ccie study question. No one even bothers >> > to search the cisco site before they email the list. We have a lot >> > of off topic and and questions that belong on the general list not >> > here, and not much studying going on…. >> > >> > Still did not answer my question - has he passed the written? >> > —– Original Message —- >> > From: Hobbs >> > To: David >> > Lonnie >> > >> > Cc: ratm ; Michael Jones >> > ; itguy.pro@gmail.com; Wes Stevens >> > ; “ccielab@groupstudy.com” >> > >> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:38:31 PM >> > Subject: >> > Re: set password >> > >> > >> > HAHA. all you guys got owned. He was asking how to use the ? in the >> > password. I think that’s a legitimate question. HAHAHA. >> > >> > don’t take >> > it personal, i just thought it was funny! >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM, >> > David Lonnie wrote: >> > >> > Hi,ratm. >> > >> > Right, only you got >> > the correct answer. >> > >> > >> > David. >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ratm wrote: >> > >> > > hi david >> > > >> > > In order to enter the question >> > mark as a character and not a calling IOS >> > > help you have to use the sequence: >> > Ctrl+v and then enter the question mark, >> > > then enter the remaining characters >> > > >> > > vtp password cisco CTRL+v ? >> > > >> > > I really hope you were asking this… >> > > >> > > br >> > > ruben >> > > >> > > 2008/8/31 Michael Jones >> > > >> > > wtF lol >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM, wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> > And which country did you pass your ccie? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Sent via BlackBerry >> > from T-Mobile >> > >> > >> > >> > —–Original Message—– >> > >> > From: Wes Stevens >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:21 >> > >> > >> > To: David Lonnie; ccielab@groupstudy.com> > >> > >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com> >> > >> > Subject: Re: set password >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > When and >> > how did you pass your ccie written? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > —– Original Message >> > —- >> > >> > From: David Lonnie >> > >> > To: >> > “ccielab@groupstudy.com” >> > >> > Sent: Saturday, August >> > 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM >> > >> > Subject: set password >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi,experts. >> > >> > can >> > some guys tell me , how to set vtp password “cisco?” ? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > David >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > >> > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic >> > groups at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > >> > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic >> > groups at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > >> > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Blogs and organic groups >> > at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> >> > >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ >> > >> >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > >> >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic groups at >> > http://www.ccie.net >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > ___ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> — >> Muhammad Nasim >> Network Engineer >> Saudi Arabia >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> _ Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> _ Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > — > Regards, > > Shahid > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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