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Thanks Shahid
On 8/31/08, Scott Morris wrote: > > I see your point there, but don’t necessarily agree…. I will absolutely > agree that people need to have some flavor of real-life experience to go > along with this, otherwise too many things just don’t make sense… > > On the same notion though, the CCIE isn’t about real life! It’s about > technologies. And you’ll learn more details (generally speaking) about > those in vendor’s workbooks and bootcamps than you will with several years > on live networks. > > That’s just because we have different focusses in real life versus in lab > exams! But real life experience should give us the perspective on things > as > we move forward! > > Either way, though, the key is that the CCIE number is not the END of the > journey! I still remember walking out of the lab up in Halifax (closed > now) on a nice, sunny day, having just received my number…. I walked > across the street to a park and just laid down staring up at the sky. And > the biggest thing I remember is thinking about all the things I knew and > realizing “damn, there’s even more stuff I don’t know!”. > > CCIE is but a pit-stop on our technical journey! Vendors and bootcamps > cannot possibly teach you everything! > > Scott > > —–Original Message—– > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Muhammad Nasim > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:12 AM > To: Wes Stevens > Cc: Hobbs; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: set password > > It is due to easiness of passing the lab and availability of the Dynampis > and the most NEGATIVE thing is to ONLY AND ONLY FOCUS ON VENDOR WORKBOOKS > AND BOOTCAMP in order to get the NUMBER. > > > No offense intended to vendors and candidates. > > > > 2008/8/31 Wes Stevens > > > I was active on this list 6 year ago before I sat the lab. I have been > > watching on and off since and helping when time permits. The list goes > > in cycles. Right now it is out of focus. Way too many questions that > > are not CCIE quality. Most companys force the use of a special > > character in passwords - any of the 100 or so network ops guys where I > > work could tell you how to do it. > > For me that is a CCNA question - not IE. If you have passed the > > written - a prerequisite for this list - you should know it. > > > > If you are serious about > > your studies this list should be important to you. If it is important > > keeping it focused on discussions that will help you pass the lab > > should also be important. These days there are a lot more CCNA > > questions and off topics then ones that really help. > > > > > > > > —– Original Message —- > > From: Hobbs > > > > To: Wes Stevens > > Cc: > > ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:08:43 AM > > Subject: Re: > > set password > > > > > > “Still don’t think it is a ccie study question” > > > > Talk about a > > poor sport! Section I-B of the blueprint includes…VTP…hmmm… > > > > I would > > think that includes how to set a vtp password, with the particular > > caveat of setting one with a question mark. I didn’t know that one > > until I started studying for the lab (which was before I took the > > written by the way). > > > > The > > topic of his post was not “Have I taken the written yet and/or your > > concerns on whether I have” so stop trying to change it to that. Maybe > > you should start a separate chain for your ad hominems. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Wes > > Stevens wrote: > > > > I saw the quotes around the “?”. > > Still don’t think it is a ccie study question. No one even bothers to > > search > > the cisco site before they email the list. We have a lot of off topic and > > and > > questions that belong on the general list not here, and not much studying > > going on…. > > > > Still did not answer my question - has he passed the written? > > —– Original Message —- > > From: Hobbs > > To: David > > Lonnie > > > > Cc: ratm ; Michael > > Jones ; itguy.pro@gmail.com; Wes Stevens > > ; “ccielab@groupstudy.com” > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:38:31 PM > > Subject: > > Re: set password > > > > > > HAHA. all you guys got owned. He was asking how to use the > > ? in the password. I think that’s a legitimate question. HAHAHA. > > > > don’t take > > it personal, i just thought it was funny! > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM, > > David Lonnie wrote: > > > > Hi,ratm. > > > > Right, only you got > > the correct answer. > > > > > > David. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:03 AM, ratm > > wrote: > > > > > hi david > > > > > > In order to enter the question > > mark as a character and not a calling IOS > > > help you have to use the sequence: > > Ctrl+v and then enter the question mark, > > > then enter the remaining characters > > > > > > vtp password cisco CTRL+v ? > > > > > > I really hope you were asking this… :-) > > > > > > br > > > ruben > > > > > > 2008/8/31 Michael Jones > > > > > > wtF lol > > >> > > >> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM, wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > And which country did you pass your ccie? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Sent via BlackBerry > > from T-Mobile > > >> > > > >> > —–Original Message—– > > >> > From: Wes Stevens > > > > >> > > > >> > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:30:21 > > >> > > > To: David Lonnie; ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> > > > ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > >> > Subject: Re: set password > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > When and > > how did you pass your ccie written? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > —– Original Message > > —- > > >> > From: David Lonnie > > >> > To: > > “ccielab@groupstudy.com” > > >> > Sent: Saturday, August > > 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM > > >> > Subject: set password > > >> > > > >> > Hi,experts. > > >> > can > > some guys tell me , how to set vtp password “cisco?” ? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > David > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > >> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Blogs and organic > > groups at http://www.ccie.net > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > >> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Blogs and organic > > groups at http://www.ccie.net > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > >> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > >> > > >> > > >> Blogs and organic groups > > at http://www.ccie.net > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > >> > > Subscription information may be found at: > > >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at > > http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > — > Muhammad Nasim > Network Engineer > Saudi Arabia > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > >
— Regards,
Shahid
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