Go CCIE Go!! - A Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert

Steady on..
I think some of the women on the list might object to this sort of jovial banter.
Just a thought.. —– Original Message —– From: “Joseph Brunner” To: “‘Luan Nguyen’” ; “‘Santi’” Cc: “‘Cacca Mucca’” ; “’shiran guez’” ; ; Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:21 AM Subject: RE: (no subject) - Security clearances
> One. > > But her head had to have still been in your lap when the cop got to your > car > door with his flashlight… > > > > —–Original Message—– > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Luan > Nguyen > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 PM > To: Santi > Cc: Cacca Mucca; Joseph Brunner; shiran guez; EdmondsSG@aol.com; > ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: (no subject) - Security clearances > > Geez, > How many traffic tickets are too many? > > -lmn > > On Feb 3, 2008 9:08 PM, Santi wrote: > >> One thing that a civilian contractor must realize is >> one, unless you already have your TS/SCI because of a >> DOD or military background, it is not likely the >> contractor will ever obtain it. A TS, yes. At the >> most. If the contract requires it. Anything above >> this is very highly improbable. For one thing, a >> TS/SCI is going to cost either the company or DOD over >> 150K. And this is “IF” the contractor already has a >> TS. Two, if the contractor is not a U.S. citizen and >> their background cannot be positively verified to DOD >> reqs, the contractor will not ever obtain a TS in the >> Dept of Defense, let alone a “secret” clearance. >> >> A TS can be granted interim, if the contractor already >> has a “secret” clearance, is a U.S citizen and has a >> verifiable background. But it takes no less than a >> year to obtain a full TS. Most likely, two years. >> Anything above this will take longer, “UNLESS”, you are >> in the Department of Defense, working for one of the >> three letter agencies or in the military. I have seen >> DOD contractors working on certain projects be pushed >> through, when a full Bird or above signs off on the >> requirement for the contractor to have a high clearance >> and the need cannot be readily fulfilled by someone who >> already possesses such a clearance. >> >> There are exceptions to all of the above. But, for all >> practical purposes, those are as rare as squeezing a >> diamond out of your butt. >> >> Contractors with a “secret” clearance are pretty much a >> dime a dozen in the DOD and military. Not much >> leverage when it comes to salary negotiation. The >> reason being is that it is not that hard to obtain one, >> unless you have been naughty in the past, bad credit, >> bad divorce, too many traffic tickets, murder……. >> >> Santi >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com >> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Cacca Mucca >> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:50 AM >> To: Joseph Brunner >> Cc: shiran guez; Darby Weaver; EdmondsSG@aol.com; >> ccielab@groupstudy.com >> Subject: Re: (no subject) >> >> If one has SSBI/TS and/or SCI/TS, I think $180K a year >> plus benefits is a >> good place to start. >> >> It takes so long for the investigation, you are in high >> demand. >> >> Last time I heard, it takes 3 to 5 years for the >> investigation. >> >> >> On 2/1/08, Joseph Brunner >> wrote: >> > >> > Only Lockheed martin, Northrop Grumman, Computer >> Sciences Corp and other >> > juiced in firms can charge that much in DC. Do you >> think “John P. >> > Consultant” can ever bid on a contract at the >> Pentagon or Social Security >> > Administration? >> > >> > The requirements for SSBI/Top Secret Clearance, etc. >> all but >> > insurmountable >> > to small firms that just don’t have a person on staff >> that can pass that >> > background check… oh, yes, and you’ll fail it with >> a tax lien on your >> > credit file… I can assure you that… >> > >> > So good luck guys… >> > >> > —–Original Message—– >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com >> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >> > shiran guez >> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:49 AM >> > To: Darby Weaver >> > Cc: EdmondsSG@aol.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com >> > Subject: Re: (no subject) >> > >> > Just one thing to think about: 2 weeks ago I was in >> my first lab attempt >> > in >> > San Jose CA I stayed in Hotel 10 min from Cisco >> buildings the distance >> > between the hotel to the Airport was ~30mil just >> under 40 min drive the >> > taxi >> > took 120$ and I drought he had a CCIE, so in relation >> to that a hour fee >> > can >> > change based on location as you may be able to charge >> 120 - 150 per hr in >> > CA >> > but in DC you will be able to charge 250$ per hr or >> in India you will not >> > be >> > able to Charge more then 50$ per hr, so it is really >> a location dependent. >> > >> > Also another suggestion if you want to continue in >> your line of work IT do >> > not quit anything stick in your quest to achieve >> goals as it is not only >> > good for your prestige it is also show character and >> as we are in a >> > capitalistic world it also pay the rent. and it >> doesn’t meter if you will >> > pursue Cisco or other (forgive me John Chambers) like >> Juniper (growing >> > quickly). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Jan 30, 2008 5:16 PM, Darby Weaver >> wrote: >> > >> > > This may be true. >> > > >> > > Jospeh Brunner quotes some nice rates and I guess >> as a >> > > trainer and as an outsourcer (I understand he might >> > > hire out soem of his students from time to time), >> then >> > > yes, contract rates may be exceptional - $150k or >> even >> > > $150.00 per hour in NY or elsewhere. >> > > >> > > However, it seems most CCIE and CCIE-level >> positions >> > > seems to get to about the $125-150k plus benefits >> and >> > > bonus. >> > > >> > > With that said I recall hearing of a CCIE in my own >> > > company working at a site for a about 1/2 the low >> > > figure. >> > > >> > > I know of a double CCIE personally who was a double >> > > and doing 80k till he got a few years of seasoning, >> > > and I’d have to check but with a CCIE RS/Security >> and >> > > signicicant VoIP experience working for a Gold >> Partner >> > > he may still be under $125k base. >> > > >> > > >> > > So… for most of us, I think $100-125k is going to >> be >> > > the rate for a while. Contract rates will differ >> > > somewhat depending on conditions. $150k may be the >> > > tops. >> > > >> > > Just a few observances… >> > > >> > > Personally myself and a coworker were speaking of >> this >> > > yesterday actually came to the conclusion that a >> CCIE >> > > certification pretty much qualifies one to >> volunteer >> > > for travel, and extensive travel at that at least >> for >> > > our company. >> > > >> > > Myself, I’m too close to quit the IE quest now >> however >> > > mypartner is fairly experienced and ties knots with >> > > the IOS on a daily basis… the last quote from >> TAC >> > > to him was “Is there any feature that you didn’t >> > > use…” >> > > >> > > But newbies may have a harder time trying to >> justify >> > > the time and expense required to earn the CCIE, >> when >> > > there are so many easier roads to follow that >> require >> > > so much less dedication and regimen to achieve. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > — EdmondsSG@aol.com wrote: >> > > >> > > > I’m not sure that having IE means $$$ in the >> market >> > > > place anymore - maybe >> > > > for people running bootcamps etc and the like - >> but >> > > > not in my world…. >> > > > >> > > > I would think theres more money to be made in >> > > > advising others how to pass >> > > > than in say a bank isp etc .. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________________ >> ________________ >> > > > Subscription information may be found at: >> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________________ >> ________________ >> > > Subscription information may be found at: >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > — >> > Shiran Guez >> > MCSE CCNP NCE1 >> > http://cciep3.blogspot.com >> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/cciep3 >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________________ >> ________________ >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________________ >> ________________ >> > Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> _______________________________________________________ >> ________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html