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Naturally there are exceptions - and who can speak for everyone?
— Scott Morris wrote:
> While I can’t comment about all the points you list, > be very careful about > the sweeping “other vendors” part in point #1. > After spending many 10pm, > 11pm, midnite (usually 1am I kick anyone out who’s > still working so that we > won’t be TOO grumpy in the morning), I do kinda > resent being lumped into > that. > > Not all classes “need” to go that late. (At least > in my case) I leave it up > to students to work from wherever. I always > guarantee to be on e-mail until > at least 1am (which is why I’m often accused of not > sleeping), so students > can feel free to work from wherever they are more > comfortable. > > While it may very well be that Narbik and I are the > only two ADD/Insomniac > instructors out there, it seems highly unlikely. I > don’t have experience > with other vendors to say one way or the other as > you do, but I would still > caution against lumping EVERYONE together in > statements like that! > > Just my two cents. Back to sleep now. Oh, damn. > Students in class. > Caffeine. Good. > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service > Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M > #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning > Credits! > > smorris@ipexpert.com > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > http://www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > —–Original Message—– > From: nobody@groupstudy.com > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Darby Weaver > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:22 PM > To: keith tokash; Joseph Brunner; ‘Hoogen’; ‘Wael > Mahmood’ > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: RE: ‘Narbik Kocharians bootcamp feedbak ? > > Some of the things I think that is noticeably > different about Narbik’s > Bootcamp versus others are: > > 1. 9AM to Midnight with the Instructor - Other > vendors stop at 5-6pm and > leave students to their own devices. > > 2. One-on-one attention on a candidates issues and > deficiencies. I’ve heard > of at least one other bootcamp that has two > instructors dedicated per > sstudent (so I hear), but at other bootcamps, if a > student has “too many” > deficiencies, then a student may or may not get > sufficient instructor > attention. > Resulting in varying value to each student per > bootcamp. Hmmm… Not > naming names here but it is wrth mentioning. > > 3. Narbik is said to focus on basics and > fundamentals > - well that is what the CCIE Lab consists of, so > this > has value. As a veteran Boot Camp attendee at this > point, I can tell you that I’ve seen students (and > yes me too) flounder for > (blush) several minutes (30 or > more) to hours on a mis-understood or basic topic. > As such I can tell you > this derails the value of a bootcamp to some > students as well. > > - Joe has a point here a well-prepared student has > little value attending a > bootcamp. However, I’d say based on my personal > observations - most > students are just not that well-prepared - I know it > took me two year to get > where I am now and I am thankful for the > experiences. Still acknowledging I > have a bit to go. > > Ok got a problem to resolve… > >