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		<title>use of CS in qos?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for your answer.
but i was wondering does  a device (understading only IPP) gets a DSCP marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway? if yes what the point of the CS?
Abderrahim
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:12:33 -0400 Subject: Re: use of CS in qos? From: jastorino@ipexpert.com To: a_sadki1@hotmail.com CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Hey,
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your answer.<br />
but i was wondering does  a device (understading only IPP) gets a DSCP marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway? if yes what the point of the CS?<br />
Abderrahim<br />
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:12:33 -0400 Subject: Re: use of CS in qos? From: jastorino@ipexpert.com To: a_sadki1@hotmail.com CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com<br />
Hey,<br />
IPP uses the most significant 3 bits in the ToS field in the IP header.  With DSCP the CS values essentially do the same thing.  In order to be backwards compatible with IPP it only uses the 3 most significant bits.   Maybe this will help you visualize:<br />
 CSx  Dec.  IPP  Binary<br />
CS1   8         1   001 000 CS2   16       2   010 000 CS3   24       3   011 000 CS4   32       4   100 000 CS5   40       5   101 000 CS6   48       6   110 000 CS7   56       7   111 000<br />
HTH<br />
 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM, abderrahim sadki <a> wrote:<br />
Hi all.<br />
I understand that CS is used for backward compatibility with IP precedence.<br />
My question is :<br />
if a device only understands the IP precedence and it receives a packet with the dscp marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway?<br />
Thanks, Abderrahim<br />
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		<title>use of CS in qos?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey,
IPP uses the most significant 3 bits in the ToS field in the IP header.  With DSCP the CS values essentially do the same thing.  In order to be backwards compatible with IPP it only uses the 3 most significant bits. Maybe this will help you visualize:
CSx  Dec.  IPP  Binary
CS1 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
IPP uses the most significant 3 bits in the ToS field in the IP header.  With DSCP the CS values essentially do the same thing.  In order to be backwards compatible with IPP it only uses the 3 most significant bits. Maybe this will help you visualize:<br />
CSx  Dec.  IPP  Binary<br />
CS1   8         1   001 000 CS2   16       2   010 000 CS3   24       3   011 000 CS4   32       4   100 000 CS5   40       5   101 000 CS6   48       6   110 000 CS7   56       7   111 000<br />
HTH<br />
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM, abderrahim sadki <a>wrote:<br />
&gt; Hi all. &gt; &gt; I understand that CS is used for backward compatibility with IP precedence. &gt; &gt; My question is : &gt; if a device only understands the IP precedence and it receives a packet &gt; with &gt; the dscp marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway? &gt; &gt; Thanks, &gt; Abderrahim &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________________ &gt; Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live &gt; Spaces. &gt; It&#8217;s easy! &gt; &gt; http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&amp;wx_url=/friends.aspx&amp;m &gt; kt=en-us &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br />
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		<title>Live Stream from Cisco Live / Networkers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think ours were better looking. I&#8217;ll have to find a couple pics of each and post them on a voting webpage.
thanks, Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&#38;S / Security) CCSI# 30482 CEO / President CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Partner (CLP) Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com Toll Free: 877-654-2243 International: +1-702-968-5100 Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call FAX: +1-702-446-8012 YES! We take Cisco Learning [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ours were better looking. I&#8217;ll have to find a couple pics of each and post them on a voting webpage.<br />
thanks, Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&amp;S / Security) CCSI# 30482 CEO / President CCBOOTCAMP - Cisco Learning Partner (CLP) Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com Toll Free: 877-654-2243 International: +1-702-968-5100 Skype: skype:ccbootcamp?call FAX: +1-702-446-8012 YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits! Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Faria Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:10 AM To: Travis Niedens Cc: jastorino@ipexpert.com; David Clark; all.from.nj@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Re: Live Stream from Cisco Live / Networkers<br />
I agre blue cat had the best booth babes!!<br />
Tony<br />
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Travis Niedens wrote:<br />
&gt; I saw them earlier.  BlueCat has two of them as well&#8230;. wow !  They look &gt; like &gt; E3 BBs. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Travis &gt; &gt; &gt; From: jastorino@ipexpert.com &gt; &gt; To: dclark@ccbootcamp.com; all.from.nj@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: Live Stream from Cisco Live / Networkers &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:10:10 -0400 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I heard there were booth babes. Can we just get a stream on that please? &gt; : &gt; &gt; ) &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Regards, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Joe Astorino &gt; &gt; CCIE #24347 (R&amp;S) &gt; &gt; Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc. &gt; &gt; URL: http://www.IPexpert.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; &gt; &gt; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of &gt; &gt; David Clark &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:54 PM &gt; &gt; To: ALL From_NJ; Cisco certification &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: Live Stream from Cisco Live / Networkers &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrew, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We are broadcasting right now: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ccie &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; IF you want to see any of us dance, please let me know. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________________ &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: ALL From_NJ [mailto:all.from.nj@gmail.com] &gt; &gt; Sent: Mon 6/29/2009 5:22 PM &gt; &gt; To: Cisco certification; David Clark &gt; &gt; Subject: Live Stream from Cisco Live / Networkers &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hey Team, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Found this pretty cool. Very distracting though for an easily distracted &gt; &gt; guy &gt; &gt; like me <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , you all have a busy booth it seems&#8230;. a live feed from the &gt; &gt; CCBOOTCAMP booth at Networkers. Nice. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ccie &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks for sharing ccbootcamp. Brad - I do not see you dancing &#8230; no &gt; beer &gt; &gt; yet? lol &#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; BTW - Where is DC? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Which booth has the best give aways this year? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#8212; &gt; &gt; Andrew Lee Lissitz &gt; &gt; all.from.nj@gmail.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ the JNCIE logo that is classic.<br />
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Rick Mur  wrote:<br />
&gt; Please share this funny thing for the people who didn&#8217;t attend <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; I really like this pic, especially the JNCIE logo on your arm <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; http://www.flickr.com/photos/25679159@N03/3675792133/in/photostream/ &gt; &gt; Rick Mur &gt; CCIE2 #21946 (R&amp;S / SP) &gt; rick@rickmur.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On 3 jul 2009, at 19:55, Scott Morris wrote: &gt; &gt; Except that wasn&#8217;t Marvin next to us.   That was some dude from the &gt;&gt; University of Maryland!  <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But yes, it was thoroughly amusing! &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JNCI-M, JNCI-ER &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; evil@ine.com &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Internetwork Expert, Inc. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.InternetworkExpert.com  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Toll Free: 877-224-8987 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Outside US: 775-826-4344 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Knowledge is power. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Power corrupts. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Anthony Faria wrote: &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; (John Chambers) Hello What do you do Mr Morris Training!! Hello &gt;&gt;&gt; Mr.Siquera &gt;&gt;&gt; what to you do training! Hello Mr. Greenlee what do you do training!!! &gt;&gt;&gt; Next &gt;&gt;&gt; topic LMAO!!!!! &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Funniest thing I seen at networkers!!! &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Tony &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt;&gt;&gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt;&gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt;&gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br />
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/25679159@N03/3675792133/in/photostream/
Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&#38;S / SP) rick@rickmur.com
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please share this funny thing for the people who didn&#8217;t attend <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I really like this pic, especially the JNCIE logo on your arm <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25679159@N03/3675792133/in/photostream/<br />
Rick Mur CCIE2 #21946 (R&amp;S / SP) rick@rickmur.com</p>
<p>On 3 jul 2009, at 19:55, Scott Morris wrote:<br />
&gt; Except that wasn&#8217;t Marvin next to us.   That was some dude from the &gt; University of Maryland!  <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   But yes, it was thoroughly amusing! &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)   &gt; #4713, &gt; &gt; JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. &gt; &gt; JNCI-M, JNCI-ER &gt; &gt; evil@ine.com &gt; &gt; &gt; Internetwork Expert, Inc. &gt; &gt; http://www.InternetworkExpert.com &gt; &gt; Toll Free: 877-224-8987 &gt; &gt; Outside US: 775-826-4344 &gt; &gt; &gt; Knowledge is power. &gt; &gt; Power corrupts. &gt; &gt; Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Anthony Faria wrote: &gt;&gt; (John Chambers) Hello What do you do Mr Morris Training!! Hello   &gt;&gt; Mr.Siquera &gt;&gt; what to you do training! Hello Mr. Greenlee what do you do   &gt;&gt; training!!! Next &gt;&gt; topic LMAO!!!!! &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Funniest thing I seen at networkers!!! &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Tony &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt;&gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt;&gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at: &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all.
I understand that CS is used for backward compatibility with IP precedence.
My question is : if a device only understands the IP precedence and it receives a packet with the dscp marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway?
Thanks, Abderrahim
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all.<br />
I understand that CS is used for backward compatibility with IP precedence.<br />
My question is : if a device only understands the IP precedence and it receives a packet with the dscp marking isnt it going to ignore the last 3 bits anyway?<br />
Thanks, Abderrahim<br />
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		<title>Narbik Bootcamps</title>
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Narbik Kocharians  wrote:
&#62; I will be attending it as well. &#62; &#62; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Dennis Worth  &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62; &#62; I will be there in Glendale. &#62; &#62; &#62; &#62; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:53 AM, [...]]]></description>
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Narbik Kocharians  wrote:<br />
&gt; I will be attending it as well. &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Dennis Worth  &gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; I will be there in Glendale. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Peter Kurdziel  &gt; wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Is anyone planning on going to Narbik&#8217;s August bootcamps? &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Pete &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Terry Vinson  consultant@tnclimited.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I have been to Narbik&#8217;s bootcamp as well, and it was without a doubt &gt; &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; best thing I&#8217;ve done in preparing for the lab.  In fact when I saw &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; announcement from Narbik regarding the cisco360 program I nearly &gt; &gt; flipped &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; out.  I sent him a panicked email trying to understand why he would &gt; &gt; &gt; change &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; something that (in my opinion) worked so well, even after reading his &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; initial email ( where he explained all this already ). &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that people that study 16 hours a day &gt; &gt; should &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; not be allowed unfettered access to e-mail.  <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Narbik sent me an email clearly explaining (again) that he was NOT &gt; &gt; &gt; CHANGING &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ANYTHING.  He was going to go into more detail on the technologies &gt; &gt; during &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; his teaching and would be adding  2 workbooks from the Cisco360 &gt; &gt; program. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  The core offering will be his new 2.0 workbooks.  Now I don&#8217;t know &gt; how &gt; &gt; &gt; he &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; will manage to &#8220;go into more detail&#8221; but having been in one boot camp &gt; &gt; of &gt; &gt; &gt; his &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I can only imagine it will be a real learning experience.  Plan to &gt; &gt; buckle &gt; &gt; &gt; up &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and enjoy the ride. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Terry &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Topass Mustpass wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  I have been in his bootcamp and  to be frank it really worth it. &gt; Try &gt; &gt; &gt; and &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; get his workbook  few weeks to the bootcamp.If you dont have one &gt; yet. &gt; &gt; &gt; Once u &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; paid for his bootcamp you can request for one prior to you bootcamp &gt; &gt; &gt; date. So &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; u will have broader knowledge and be in control when u are in class. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;  I did that and it worked for me ,3 months after the class i got my &gt; no &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; all the best mate&#8230;.. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:47:15 +0200 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: Narbik Bootcamps &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; From: ljankok@gmail.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; To: darklordrouter@gmail.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Agreed. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; One big thing I like to mention is about business models. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Narbik tries, and does an excellent job, to give you ALL in his &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; workbooks. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Another option could be to give you half of the explanation, &gt; leaving &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; you with the urge to know more.. than sell you some video that will &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; show you something more but still leave you with questions.. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and then tell you that you need a bootcamp for a one to one thing &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and after that if that still is not enough.. don&#8217;t worry we have &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; more options.. <img src='http://www.infoccie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; off course there is not a vendor doing the above described &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; business model in the simple way I have described it.. it was just &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; for illustration purposes to make clear how the workbooks of Narbik &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; stands in all this&#8230; according to me off course. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; LJ &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 2009/6/27 darth router  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I can&#8217;t speak for the bootcamp, but his workbooks are incredible. &gt; &gt; &gt; You&#8217;ve &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; really got to figure if someone has the ability to put a rock &gt; solid &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; learning &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tool together, they are going to apply that same cohesive method &gt; in &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; their &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; live teaching. After I failed my first R/S attempt, I quit doing &gt; &gt; full &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; scale &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; labs and focused on going through vendor technology labs and &gt; &gt; building &gt; &gt; &gt; my &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; own &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; scenarios. Narbik seems to be king in the technology breakdown &gt; arena &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (IMO). &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#8217;s easy to just give someone a question, and then the answer, &gt; but &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; tedious &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and time consuming to take the time to break it down in the &gt; lessons &gt; &gt; to &gt; &gt; &gt; a &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; level where a chimp could understand. Narbik has a gift. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Sven Arend -X (sarend - Torque-IT &gt; &gt; Ltd &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; at &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cisco)  wrote: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; HI there, &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I am thinking of attending Narbiks Bootcamp. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I wanted to know if any of you have attended his bootcamp - how &gt; the &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; experience was - and if it is well worthwhile, as I would have to &gt; &gt; &gt; fund &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it out of my own pocket. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 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		<title>strategy / approach question</title>
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-original message- Subject: RE: strategy / approach question From: &#8220;Scott M Vermillion&#8221;  Date: 21/10/2008 1:10 am
Hey Charles,
No doubt the professional instructors will have some advice for you on this topic.  But just a quick question for you:
What is your own estimate of how much time this costs you per lab, on average?  [...]]]></description>
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-original message- Subject: RE: strategy / approach question From: &#8220;Scott M Vermillion&#8221;  Date: 21/10/2008 1:10 am<br />
Hey Charles,<br />
No doubt the professional instructors will have some advice for you on this topic.  But just a quick question for you:<br />
What is your own estimate of how much time this costs you per lab, on average?  My guess is that sometimes it doesn&#8217;t hurt you much.  But in other cases it could cost you around $1400.  You&#8217;re introducing unnecessary troubleshooting and reconfiguration steps.  A good (simple) example would be BGP confederation.  If you go configure BGP but leave some confed task for last, you&#8217;re going to wind up needing to start all over.<br />
This is part of the broader test.   If you don&#8217;t address it properly in your preparations, then at best you have less wiggle room in other areas of the exam.  Obviously at worst you have some additional travel arrangements to make at some point down the line.<br />
And I say all of this as someone who struggles with time management.  I don&#8217;t necessarily have your specific issue of not wanting to work out attack strategy beforehand, but I do tend to be a tad slow.  As such, much (if not most) of my final month of prep for R&amp;S was dedicated exclusively to lab strategy and time management.  I did do a whirlwind review of technologies and the documentation, but thankfully most of that was &#8220;checked off&#8221; before going into the final stretch so that I could apply myself to this critical aspect of the lab exam.<br />
Regards,<br />
Scott<br />
&#8212;&#8211;Original Message&#8212;&#8211; From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Charles Henson Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:57 PM To: Cisco certification Subject: strategy / approach question<br />
I&#8217;m about a month out from my first attempt. I am at the point where I&#8217;m completing most labs comfortably but I still am trying to work on improving my time. My question is this: One area I&#8217;m not too great on is identifying the issues ahead of time. I tend to drag my feet thru the lab and when I get to something that influences how I set things up an hour ago, I work thru it and keep going. I understand that it&#8217;s not effecient, that&#8217;s just my method. Page 1, Page 2, etc. I&#8217;m just curious to hear from other people if they have had this approach and survived or if the key to passing in a timely manner really depends on your ability to forecast problems when you initially read thru your instructions first thing in the morning. My goal for the next month - &#8220;Strategery&#8221;<br />
Anyone have any thoughts? Experiences?<br />
&#8211;  Charles<br />
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		<title>as-override vs. allowas-in</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, with the allowas-in command, there&#8217;s a # to say how many times it  can appear before considered looped.  With replacing the AS it would  just look like someone prepended, so unless you have a rule/aversion to  prepending it wouldn&#8217;t matter.
 *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&#38;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, with the allowas-in command, there&#8217;s a # to say how many times it  can appear before considered looped.  With replacing the AS it would  just look like someone prepended, so unless you have a rule/aversion to  prepending it wouldn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,<br />
JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.<br />
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<p>Persio Pucci wrote: &gt; Hi Scott, &gt; &gt; Yeah, that was the only difference I could think of. &gt; &gt; Well, on the technical side, as-override will replace the origin AS with the &gt; MPLS cloud AS, while allowas-in will actually break the AS-PATH rule and &gt; allow the AS to be repeated, so I guess that could impact filtering and some &gt; other policy-related issues. &gt; &gt; I wonder if the protocol will do some sanity-check on the AS-PATH and drop a &gt; route that has a repeated AS inside, let&#8217;s say, on a router in a connected &gt; AS that receives this route. &gt; &gt; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Scott Morris  wrote: &gt; &gt;    &gt;&gt; I suppose it depends on your perspective.  Purely technical, no, not &gt;&gt; really.  They both allow the route to come in. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Politically though, one you are solving on the SP side (presumably knowing &gt;&gt; more than your customers do), the other you are forcing all your customers &gt;&gt; to have different configurations with things they may not have a clue why. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; If you&#8217;re doing managed CE routers, then there&#8217;s no difference. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; My two cents. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; *Scott Morris*, CCIE*x4* (R&amp;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; JNCI-M, JNCI-ER &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; evil@ine.com &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Internetwork Expert, Inc. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.InternetworkExpert.com  &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Toll Free: 877-224-8987 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Outside US: 775-826-4344 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Knowledge is power. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Power corrupts. &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil&#8230;&#8230; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Persio Pucci wrote: &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi there, &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Is there any pratical difference on whether using &#8220;as-override&#8221; on the PE &gt;&gt; side instead of &#8220;allowas-in&#8221; on the CE when using BGP as the PE-CE protocol &gt;&gt; with two sites using the same AS#? &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Persio &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt;&gt; Subscription information may be found at: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html &gt;&gt;      &gt; &gt; &gt; Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________________________________ &gt; Subscription information may be found at:  &gt; http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html<br />
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		<title>John Chambers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except that wasn&#8217;t Marvin next to us.   That was some dude from the  University of Maryland!     But yes, it was thoroughly amusing!
 *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&#38;S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
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JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.<br />
JNCI-M, JNCI-ER<br />
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