Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to verify and I still didn’t………..
Congratulations …………. We already knew that ![]()
-Azher
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Hoogen wrote:
> I am still single.. do any of the vendors offer a bootcamp to teach all > that.. that sounds tougher to do list than doing a CCIE. > > Bet you took more than 4 hrs to do that.. and even after 4 hrs you must > have > failed..
> > Congrats on your number though
> > -Hoogen > #14731 > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Dale Kling wrote: > > > You’re not lying, > > > > Here’s the start of the Honey-do-list I received by my wife: > > > > - Fix hole in wall > > - Fix crooked door > > - fix alum. wrapping on flashing around garage that blew off during storm > > - Replace warped deck boards, sand deck and restain (800 sq foot > deck,it’s > > going to suck badly) > > - pressure wash house, fence, driveway, seal fence and driveway > > - put new seal around exterior facing doors > > - mulch about 3000 sq feet of flower gardens that have overgrown with > weeds > > as well now too > > - install new zone in sprinkler system > > - buy new 1080p tv and find time to enjoy it. > > - study for SP > > > > ugh, > > > > I think I was better off studying…… > > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, keith tokash > wrote: > > > > > Awesome. Sometimes while studying it sounded easy when people got > their > > > number in a few months (which makes you wonder why it’s not easy for > > > you…). > > > You did a good job conveying that you did in fact bleed for the digits. > > > Now > > > comes the fun part, where you start getting bashed in the head by all > of > > > the > > > things you put off to study.
> > > > > > > > > The information in this e-mail is intended for the > > > attention and use of the everyone in the world, or I wouldn’t have sent > > it > > > in > > > an unencrypted email. This message or any part thereof can and should > be > > > disclosed, copied, distributed and retained by any person without > > > authorization from the addressee. Furthermore, I reserve the right to > > > disclose, copy, distribute and retain anything anyone sends *me* via > > email, > > > up > > > to and including putting the exact text in a MySpace bulletin. > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:52:53 -0400 > > > > From: dalek77@gmail.com > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > > > > Subject: Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to > verify > > > and > > > I still didn’t……….. > > > > > > > > get served that coffee Brian Dennis was talking about. At least I > got > > my > > > > number on my first attempt though, 21330 baby! > > > > BTW, never ever ever take your lab on Friday, the wait was worse then > > the > > > > night before christmas as a kid! I didn’t get my results until I > woke > > up > > > > this morning and have been on edge with people all weekend. > > > > > > > > Some people already know me from class and know my story. I began > > > studying > > > > because of all the paper CCNPs out there, especially my work. Now I > > have > > > > nothing against CCNPs or any paper certs if you did it the right way, > > but > > > > what pissed me off is that our employer thought this other guy was as > > > > qualified as me because he got his CCNP and this guy announced > himself > > as > > > a > > > > Senior Engineer. Well this schmuck took two days to get an SVI on a > Cat > > > 3750 > > > > up and just started networking about a year ago. While I worked hard > > for > > > > mine and have recertified it twice over the past 7 years now, he got > > his > > > in > > > > weeks with you know what…… Pretty blatant about it as well as > they > > > > passed them around work talking about how they can get CCNP in just a > > few > > > > weeks. These guys blow and I wish Cisco would do something about > their > > > > testing system. > > > > > > > > In any case, I got mad, I mean really mad that nobody could see > through > > > the > > > > charade of these fake qualified network engineers. February of this > > year > > > I > > > > had enough and I knew there was only one thing to do. Get something > > that > > > > they couldn’t get or at least they would have to work real hard to > get > > > and > > > > based on their work ethic, I doubt they would ever get it, the CCIE. > I > > > > worked my @$$ off since I got the materials end of February, and by > the > > > > grace of GOD and my lovely wife I was able to get my number in RTP on > > > June > > > > 27th. I pretty much shut my family off for the last 4 months, while > my > > > wife > > > > took care of everything, the kids, the house, the dogs…… To give > > > > everyone an idea of the hours I put in…. I worked 40 hours a week, > I > > > > studied everyday after work, from 6 pm to 2 am labbing and 12-15 > hours > > > each > > > > day on the weekends. I took one day off and that was Mothers day and > > > then > > > I > > > > attended InternetworkExperts 12 day bootcamp. I actually finished > > their > > > > bootcamp material by the 3rd day of the bootcamp and Brian Dennis and > > > > company was nice enough to let me mock lab the rest of the days I was > > > > there. The InternetworkExpert bootcamp was nice to get away for 12 > > days > > > > and lab for about 12-15 hours a day. I went outside once the entire > > > time > > > I > > > > was there and that was for a 5 min walk to look at the pool and I > > didn’t > > > > turn on my tv once. I probably squeezed in about 3 weeks of lab time > > in > > > 2 > > > > weeks of time. In essence, I was driven to get the CCIE from start > to > > > > finish in about 4 months. Granted I have about 8 years Cisco > > experience, > > > > but it hasn’t been hands on everyday the past 3-4 years because I > work > > in > > > a > > > > lab environment now and no longer do operational support, thank god > for > > > that > > > > too. > > > > > > > > It was a hard road, and there was many times I kept telling myself > this > > > is > > > > too hard and will I never get there. However, I kept telling myself > as > > > long > > > > as I keep studying and as long as I keep labbing I will always learn > > > > something and will get closer. You might think I’m crazy, but I had > a > > > goal > > > > and my wife said go for it. As I’ve said in previous posts, my > > > motivattion > > > > was not money, but to gain the knowledge these other guys didn’t have > > and > > > to > > > > achieve CCIE status, something most of these paper certifiers won’t > > ever > > > > get. I have to say that I must thank these guys at work for the > > > > motivation, and I will today when I go in to work in 2 hours after I > > get > > > my > > > > Cisco polos embroidered with the CCIE logo and install an LED behind > > it. > > >
> > > > Seriously though, they gave me that spark that I was missing for > years > > > and > > > > passing this lab attempt has ignited it even more. Now if you’ve > > managed > > > to > > > > endure the past few paragraphs of blah, all you first time CCIE > > > candidates > > > > enjoy my recommendations, which you’ve all heard time and time again > > I’m > > > > sure. > > > > > > > > Study the Core, lab the Core until your fingers bleed. Get your Core > > > down > > > > to at least 3 hours or less. InternetwokExpert WB3 labs are awesome > > for > > > > this, I got those down to 2 hours or less, some of the hard ones took > 2 > > > 1/2 > > > > hours. Speed and time management was huge for me. I probably put in > > > about > > > > 500 hours of harcore lab time the last 4 months. I initially started > > > > InternetworkExperts WB2 doing labs in like 10 hours, learning and > > > > understanding the theory behind things. They were tough at first, > but > > I > > > > constantly would go back and reread the DOCCD and reference all my > > books, > > > I > > > > have ton of books. I watched their technologies COD 2 1/2 times in > > it’s > > > > entirety. It took a lot of coffee and doing it hands on with them to > > > stay > > > > awake. Brian Dennis’s jokes couldn’t even keep me up anymore after > the > > > > first go around.
After a few months I started completing their > labs > > > in > > > > entirety in about 4 hours. Once this happened, I would do them and > > then > > > > look up everything in the DOCCD, no matter if I knew it or not. This > > was > > > my > > > > DOCCD familiarization stage. I actually picked that up from Scott > > Morris > > > > from somewhere I believe. Here it comes, you’ve heard it before, and > > > you’re > > > > going to hear it again…. > > > > > > > > KNOW YOUR DOCCD.. I guarantee you will get something in the lab that > > you > > > > haven’t seen before. This is where speed on the CORE was essential > for > > > me. > > > > By lunch I had completed the lab once over , ran my TCL script, and > was > > > > feeling a little uneasy still, but I had the meat done. I’m a > paranoid > > > guy, > > > > you can ask others. The only thing left was verification and digging > > in > > > the > > > > DOCCD for those few things I didn’t know. I verified twice and each > > time > > > I > > > > found one small mistake that would have cost me 2 or 3 points each. > Oh > > > and > > > > by the way, I still don’t know the answer to one of them weird > > questions, > > > > even now that I’m home and I have google, so here it comes, here it > > comes > > > > again, KNOW YOUR DOCCD. My last suggestion is make sure you know > > theory > > > > very well in the CORE IGP, well everything you learn really, but > > > especially > > > > your CORE. you’ve heard time and time again Switching, FR, and IGP > > > probably > > > > will be half your points. If you understand the mechanics and how > > things > > > > work, no matter what scenario you get you can work through it. If > you > > > > memorize the vendor WBs, it won’t help in the real lab. > > > > > > > > So I guess I should recognize people and materials that have helped > me. > > > > First off, my wife and GOD. If I don’t mention her first, she might > > kill > > > me > > > > and probably the same about GOD… O_o Next, InternetworkExperts ver > 4 > > > WBs > > > > and their Technology COD. I have the Brians’ voices engrained into > my > > > > head. Brian Dennis, Josh Finke and crew from InternetworkExpert were > > > nice > > > > enough to hook me up in the last hours. Also, IPExperts audio CD > with > > > Scott > > > > Morris. I bought their WB package, but I only used the audio > portion. > > I > > > > thought it was very good and I probably listened to it about 5 times > in > > > it’s > > > > entirety driving to and from work everyday. It was just an extra > tool > > to > > > > feed my brain the knowledge it needed. > > > > > > > > I already have the materials from InternetworkExpert for the SP > track > > > and > > > > will hit that at work starting this morning since this is what I do > at > > > work > > > > everyday and my boss will let me study while I lab it up on our > 7604s. > >
> > > > MMM Knowledge, I think these guys at work turned me into an animal. > > > Watch > > > > your back Petr, I’m coming for your CCIEs and I’ll probably pass up > > Brian > > > > Mcgahan in 6 months because he’s a slacker. j/k man.
> > > > > > > > Good luck to all other CCIE candidates and I hope this email helps. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Dale > > > > > > > > P.S. Don’t unicast me for any NDA crap either, I’ll turn your ass > into > > > > Cisco. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ > > > Refresh_messenger_062008 > > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > Subscription information may be found at: > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
























