Go CCIE Go!! - A Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert

Maybe a test in the ability to BS Senior Management?!
Very useful skill as a networker who enjoys keeping there job.

On Jan 23, 2008 8:47 PM, Scott Morris wrote:
> The 4 people who passed the lab do. I passed the written for it, but it > wasn’t intentionally. (No, I don’t deliberately try to fail, they gave me > > the wrong free exam at Networkers one year and I didn’t pay any attention > to > it until the score report said “Congratulations on passing the CCIE Design > Qualification Exam”) > > > > The CCIE-Design was (pun intended) a poorly designed track, and it was > still > an implementation-based exam with a bunch of equipment. Interesting idea, > but hard to manage. The CCDE will not be hands-on in the sense of sitting > at a router, but more in line with the skillsets required of good network > designers! > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, > JNCIE-M > #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al. > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc. > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits! > > smorris@ipexpert.com > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > http://www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > —–Original Message—– > From: Hyunseog Ryu [mailto:r.hyunseog@ieee.org] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:34 PM > To: smorris@ipexpert.com > Cc: ‘Dane Newman’; ‘Brant I. Stevens’; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live > > > > > If I remember correctly, they used to have CCIE - DESIGN a couple of years > ago. > What’s the difference between CCIE-DESIGN and CCDE ? > I assume that some people still have CCIE-DESIGN in active status? > > Hyun > > Scott Morris wrote: > | According to all the information, there is going to be one track and > | one track only. The idea about a design “expert” is that they should > | not be relegated to only the Voice, Security, Enterprise or SP > infrastructures. > | That will make the certification that much more interesting and > difficult! > | > | but you’re correct, there will likely be other business-related > concepts in > | there as well since they all do (or certainly SHOULD) play a role in > network > | design. > | > | Scott > | > | > | —–Original Message—– > | From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On Behalf > | Of Hyunseog Ryu > | Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:40 AM > | To: Dane Newman > | Cc: Brant I. Stevens; ccielab@groupstudy.com > | Subject: Re: CCDE Goes Live > | > | So are they planning to do something like CCDE-RS, CCDE-SP, > | CCDE-Voice, CCDE-Security in the future ? > | I’m wondering how they will measure the score for Design. > | It may come from different business model, and even with same business > | model, it can be very different from organization to organization > based on a > | lot of resource availabilities - budget, engineering resource, human > | resource, and political background, etc… -. > | > | Hyun > | > | > | Dane Newman wrote: > | | So Is the CCDE going to devalue the CCIE at all? Will cisco require > | | 4 CCIE’s/CCDE now? > | | > | | doing a design lab seems alittle less scary no? > | | > | | Dane > | | > | | On Jan 22, 2008 9:21 AM, Brant I. Stevens wrote: > | | > | |> Just thought I’d share… > | |> > | |> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080122/0350542.html > | |> > | |> ___________________________________________________________________ > | |> __ __ Subscription information may be found at: > | |> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > | | > | | ____________________________________________________________________ > | | __ _ Subscription information may be found at: > | | http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > | | > | | > | > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > > > —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHl+sKZkEzJIVS03MRAkGrAJ9uR1LvbvGCLxrCDSqjiPVKk1CVKACgovpP > cvT6yOokgPE7Dj3X2xdwxp0= > =LNEz > —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–