CCDE
They are talking about limited locations that are more secure, as well as resticting availability to possibly something like once a quarter, not a test that you can just keep retaking. Delivered-To: marvin@ipexpert.com Received: by 10.142.161.6 with SMTP id j6cs16303wfe; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.18.16 with SMTP id v16mr4572915wfi.41.1214256069827; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from lists.groupstudy.com (lists.groupstudy.com [67.19.171.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 4si6964057yxq.8.2008.06.23.14.21.08; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ccielab-owner@groupstudy.com designates 67.19.171.90 as permitted sender) client-ip=67.19.171.90; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ccielab-owner@groupstudy.com designates 67.19.171.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ccielab-owner@groupstudy.com; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@gmail.com Received: from lists.groupstudy.com (lists [127.0.0.1]) by lists.groupstudy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5NLKdtj022511; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:39 -0400 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by lists.groupstudy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m5NLKcws022503; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:38 -0400 Received: from groupstudy.com (groupstudy.com [208.73.222.90]) by lists.groupstudy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5NLKJwF022246 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:19 -0400 Received: from groupstudy.com (groupstudy.com [127.0.0.1]) by groupstudy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5NLKRcm018312 GroupStudy Mailer; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:27 -0400 Received: (from listserver@localhost) by groupstudy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id m5NLKRC4018310 for ccielabxhiddenx; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:27 -0400 Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by groupstudy.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5NLKPYn018273 GroupStudy Mailer; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:20:26 -0400 Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b32so1486189ika.6 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=m1P5JHY2G2mzFCoTSh73HdOpQViQbWHy5dj5TfTK22g=; b=RL0DmBra6Lb70+ODKKCFsSn+wZ2KjC7cOMxuvx3IaUDhT2gAXdWuzfV+ku1CPs7r+4 CrmaKA/XjqLVNtOmwCK5+6dkc5vR+S8z+4KB+lFG6V0Sz13qatVwJGyLDFGTLIDXxsCe tmZ7OzrFoHgfSciS8EUBHhaIvypL9mOIcKKZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eqTzKAtTZWvtU4SQSB+oJoRPbEk1LSqZFq5ANVqSVVk9n6t4AZecJzPCADvmurVRBS hQFDySllvUUkBS4QL00+iSSQLxDZP/4hqdRWsQ1MeCCGKRNzDqcIm0KdsnrtZpMtuumU /5tniOp81qqJB1b4pfYtuKuhX0Drb8GoWcrAE= Received: by 10.210.62.12 with SMTP id k12mr699764eba.166.1214255910121; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.142.8 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:18:30 -0700 From: Hoogen To: “darth router” Subject: Re: CCDE Cc: swm@emanon.com, “Zahid Hassan” , “Cisco certification” In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii” References: X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by GroupStudy X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain X-ASK-Info: Whitelist match [from hoogen82@gmail.com] (2008/06/23 17:20:27) Sender: nobody@groupstudy.com Reply-To: Hoogen X-Loop: ccielab@groupstudy.com X-Sequence: 7175 Errors-to: ccielab-owner@groupstudy.com Precedence: list X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well I wouldn’t mind the computer based test, what scares me is they would offer it everywhere. You don’t have to go to 10 Cisco test locations but you could be anywhere??? What is Cisco thinking?
Just another annoying thing.. why do people turn on their auto out of reply for groupstudy.. it so irritating when you get out office replies..
-Hoogen
On 6/23/08, darth router wrote: > > I hope it ends up a solid cert, and increases my pay scale potential
If > so, I’m on board. Meanwhile still plugging on the not so marketable SP IE, > just because the technology is fun!! > > > DR > > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Scott Morris wrote: > >> I think it’s a little premature to relegate it that far down. >> >> What methology would you like to see used? And how can you make it a >> scalable/reproducable concept? That’s the hard part with developing any >> exam. >> >> The exam is still in beta and is being evaluated by a number of >> highly-qualified (not to mention overly-opinionated) people. I would >> suspect that any changes that need to take place, or things to make sure >> it >> does no become a brain-dump-able test are being worked through! >> >> Patience grasshopper…. >> >> >> >> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, >> JNCIE-M >> #153, JNCIS-ER, MCSE, CCDP, CCNA-WAN Switching, CCSP, Cable Communications >> Specialist, IP Telephony Support Specialist, IP Telephony Design >> Specialist, >> CISSP >> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER >> swm@emanon.com >> >> >> >> >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >> >> darth router >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:53 PM >> To: Zahid Hassan >> Cc: Hoogen; Cisco certification >> Subject: Re: CCDE >> >> So much for the CCDE being bigger and badder like we originally thought. >> Gonna be a weekend braindumper
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Zahid Hassan wrote: >> >> > Hoogen, >> > >> > >> > I can’t really agree with you on this less. >> > >> > This is going to be a disgrace to many of us who were very keenly >> > looking forward to this new track. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > >> > Zahid >> > >> > CCIE #14103 (R&S/SP/SEC) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > —–Original Message—– >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >> > Of Hoogen >> > Sent: 23 June 2008 18:11 >> > To: Dane Newman >> > Cc: Neil Moore; Cisco certification >> > Subject: Re: CCDE >> > >> > I can’t believe that Cisco is doing this, doesn’t make sense a >> > computer based test?? Did anyone take this during the networkers? I >> > would preferred it if I had to explain my final design to the proctor >> > administering the exam, even if it had been computer based. How would >> > they grade the final design now? >> > >> > -Hoogen >> > >> > >> > On 6/23/08, Dane Newman wrote: >> > > >> > > Take a look at this >> > > >> > > http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/29094 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Neil Moore wrote: >> > > >> > > > I see a ton of stuff on the CCIE tracks.. but I only see one >> > > > Breakout session on the CCDE though… is this track not getting >> > > > any >> > traction? >> > > > >> > > > Neil Moore CCIE5 #10044 (Current Complete Set) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > __________________________________________________________________ >> > > > __ ___ Subscription information may be found at: >> > > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > > >> > > >> > > ____________________________________________________________________ >> > > __ _ Subscription information may be found at: >> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > _ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > _ Subscription information may be found at: >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> Subscription information may be found at: >> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
























